AE101 93' from the Philippines.

Looks sporty eh'? i just cant figure out what would look good with the body color..

A few examples:







Gorgeous colour scheme if you ask me, especially the first two!

Just a wee bit more 'low' on you'rs with this colour scheme, mmmmmmmm!

great choices man! more hard options for me.. haha

So, guys.. I am planning to do an engine swap.. I currently have a 2E for now and my choices so far is a 4EFE (1300) or 4AFE (1600?)... any comments on this?

Gladly appreciate it guys!

I have owned a 4AFE and they are great motors. Only real trouble I had with it was it burnt oil like noones business after it hit 200,000 k's.. Really great econo-box though, haha!

Although, if you are wanting to do an engine conversion to a 1600 engine, why not go to a 4AGE silver top or black top? Would be just as much mucking around as doing a 4AFE swap I would imagine and much more gain in performance (like I said, I have owned a 4AFE and currently own a silvertop 4AGE as my daily and a blacktop 4AGE as my weekend blast ). There is no comparing a 4AFE to any of the 20v 4AGE motors.

My 10 cents.

Thanks for the feedback.. Yes i heard that 4AFE engines eat a lot of oil.. somehow sounds horrible . If I were given a chance to change into a GE engine, i'd go for Silvertop! but right now its not gonna go through the budget and i am looking for an everyday car...

so here's the facts..

1. Fuel economy
2. Pefromance
3. Quality..

these three things are what i am looking for an engine swap.

Thoughts?

All of the 4AGE 20v motors tick them boxes!

Ledge` wrote:

All of the 4AGE 20v motors tick them boxes!

sorry im a newb.. what does this mean? haha

He mean's all the 4AGE motors provide Fuel Economy, Performance and are Quality. And truly, they are.

gelovash wrote:

sorry im a newb.. what does this mean? haha

4AGE 20v Motors (as in the 4AGE Silvertop or Blacktop). There are other 4AGE engines that aren't 20v that can be found in older Toyota's, such as the AE86 Levin/Trueno's which by factory carry the 4AGE 16v engines.

I was saying that the 4AGE 20 valve engines (Silvertop and Blacktop) both are:

-Fuel Efficient
-Definitely perform for a 1600cc engine and is in a class ahead of the 4AFE.
-Quality is great as we all know, just like any other retro Toyota motor. I don't have any excessive oil burning with my 4AGE's that I did with my 4AFE. My Silvertop burns a wee bit but nothing to worry about (she has done 216,000k's keep in mind).

So I understand that 4AGE is way better in performance than 4AFE or 4EFE.. but what about the efficiency? i heard that 4AGE motors are very good in quality too... so the question now is,

Fuel consumption (how many kms/litre for the 4AGE. "i read that 4efe = 12kms/litre")

Maintenance.. is it expensive to maintain a silver top? cause if i were to choose between a silver top vs. black top.. i'd go for silver top!

Fuel usage differences are barely noticeable from 4AFE to a 4AGE. Both really economical.

Just like any engine ever produced by any company lol, just typical maintenance for a 4AGE engine.

Silvertop v Blacktop. It really depends on what you'r long term goals are with the build and what sort of $$ you want to spend.

-Hands down, the blacktop performs better than the silvertop from factory standards, ie, no mods.
-If you plan to modify with serious performance enhancing mods, silvertop is the way to go as the silvertop has a few stronger internal parts such as rods and crank.

The beauty of these differences is you can easily mix and match the better aspects of the 20v 4AGE's to build a 4AGE to you'r specifications. An example of this would be running the rods from a silvertop in a blacktop as they are much stronger, or running a factory manifold from a blacktop on a silvertop engine.
Possibilities everywhere with the two!

Hope this gives you a brief insight, definitely go out and do you'r research first of course.

+2

I've had a few Black tops, they are Toyota quality so they will run all day at the track and then drive home.

Like ledge says if you want to stay standard go black top, bigger intake, bigger exhaust mani, lighter internals and the a MAP sensored so no AFM.
You can have a lot fun in standard form, they are very quick and also good on gas, I found very little difference when i swapped out the 4afe to the BT.

My wagon that I had would keep up with a Nissan Pulsar GTiR (SR20DET)

Yeah thats awesome info guys..

awesome indeed.. but i think as much as i would like to go for black top or silver, my budget wont go through right now . it's not that my 2e engine is dying out or something and of course i can wait and save up to get that.. but, if 4efe or 4afe is a good choice and could possibly last up to 5- 10 years plus if i could save more money because of the fuel efficiency.... then that would be worth the investment.. right? Thoughts on those two FE engines??

4AFE and 4EFE are good, but performance wise, if you're lookin at a new engine, I would go with a 20v. If you wanna keep the car the way it is, then an FE obviously. But it also depends how long you plan on keeping the car, how much cash you wanna drop into it.

It just gets harder and harder to decide what to do.. I guess I would still need some more info on this since especially im a newb at this. , keep the comments comin' guys.. i really really need and appreciate it!

here are the choices now..

4EFE vs 4AGE(silvertop) "which is goinna take me a while before I can get a hold of this"


I'm also considering the weight of an ae101 to the power of the engine on how it would do for fuel consumption..

dont you mean 4E-FTE? the 1.3 turbo?

you could always go with 3sge

miib14 wrote:

dont you mean 4E-FTE? the 1.3 turbo?

you could always go with 3sge

naah'' 4efte is almost the same price of silver top.. i was referring mainly to the stock 4efe 1300

oh ok, then i would definetly get a 4age

With all your comments im more and more into 4age.. haha thanks guys.. now I'm fixed at possibly getting the 4age... ill post more info soon.. thanks a lot guys!

moving on with more updates..


since it's very hot here in the philippines nowadays, i decided to get the car tinted.. haha, i'm a little disappointed because having no tint looks mint, but then again i cant argue with the protection that it can give me or us against sun rays and even thieves ...

and quality of tint is good so far.. i used 3m tint.

you got the front screen tinted?

all the windows. haha good bye sun, and hello hell night driving! haha